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Installation |
In the case of most rifles, the sight is fastened to the rifle by
removing the factory upper tang screw (the screw which holds the buttstock to
the gun), placing the rear sight base hole over the empty hole in the upper
tang, and replacing the tang screw with the slightly longer tang screw provided
with the sight. On older Winchesters, and some current arms, there is another
smaller hole forward on the upper tang. It has a tang sight filler screw in it
and when this filler screw is removed, it allows replacement with the second
smaller tang sight mounting screw
provided to attach through the front sight base hole and into the front tang
hole.
In the case of Model 1866 and some 1873 Winchesters, there are two small
holes specifically for tang sights, and the upper tang screw does not need to be
removed or replaced. However, two of
the smaller tang sight mounting screws are required.
In that circumstance when there is no front mounting hole drilled by the
factory, as in Models 1894 (or “94”) manufactured after W.W.II, such a hole
must be drilled and tapped. That hole should be placed by a
competent gunsmith making sure it is done to properly accept the
Columbia Precision Tang Peep Sight. The screw provided for the front base
mounting is a 3/16 - 36 NS thread and must be drilled and tapped accordingly.
Occasionally, the upper tang sight mounting screws provided with the
sight will be longer than necessary, but they can be shortened to the proper
length with minimum effort.
It is important to note that the longer upper tang screw is of different
lengths and different threads depending on the various manufacturers. Some are
different among different models of the
same manufacturer. Be sure you state maker and model when you order your
sight and that you are using the correct screws when you mount the sight.
The Columbia Precision Tang Peep Sight is designed to fit a number of
different rifles made by several manufacturers. It will fit all pre-64 Winchesters and their facsimiles. Henrys, the models
1866 and 1873 may take two small mounting screws, as there are holes in the
upper tang for both mounting screws. All the other models use only one small
mounting screw and a slightly longer tang screw with a slightly smaller diameter
head. These small mounting screw holes are typically filled with a plug screw
which must be removed. Different bases are
needed for New Winchesters with thumb
safeties.
The distance between screws (both configurations) is 2.180”, center to center (O.C.
or “on center”). The length of tang screw and the thread size varies from
model to model and between manufacturers, so, it is important to be sure to have the correct mounting screws. When ordered for a
particular make and model, screws are shipped with each sight, and the sight
package is labeled. If no maker is indicated, Winchester screws are packed with
the sight.
Sharps rifles have a slightly
longer distance between mounting screws (most are 2.260”
and Pedersoli is 2.250”), but use
two small screws. However, these are a different thread (10-28) size from Winchester,
and do not interchange.
Brownings, as well as many
recent manufacture Winchesters and others, do not have the forward mounting
screw hole tapped into the upper tang. Caution should be taken when drilling and
tapping this hole. The proper size tap is a 3/16
- 36 NS (Brownells does not
usually stock this tap. However, Field
Tool Supply Company in Chicago does. Their phone is 312-541-6500, and they
will ship on a credit card). We encourage that this be done by a competent gunsmith-machinist. If you are unable
to find one in your area, the gun may be shipped to Columbia, and we will mount
the sight properly for a charge of $25, plus return shipping and insurance.
Please call before you ship (970-686-2865).
When mounting the sight in properly aligned holes, start both screws
without tightening either one down. When both are well started, tighten them
each down a little at a time until secure.
The Columbia Precision Tang Peep Sight has a windage element which allows
for adjustment side to side. However, some arms will not have a perfectly milled
or aligned upper tang . When the sight is mounted, it may not align with the barrel or barrel sights. If this occurs, and
the mounting is to be more or less permanent, shimming of the sight base may be necessary. Some old timers would
use anything from cigarette papers to matchbook covers to raise the sight base
on one side to straighten the post to the gun. Others might strike the sight
with a mallet to “bend” it into position. Although paper won’t hurt
anything, we suggest the mallet not
be used.
The best way to shim the sight base is to cut (ordinary scissors will
work) 1/8” wide and 2” long strips of steel shim stock (.005” thick) and
lay them in position under one side of the base. Generally, three such shims,
one on top of another (held together with a drop of rubber cement), will solve
most problems. This can be done with mounting screws loose enough to slide shims
under the side of the base, out of sight.
The elevation post, which holds the aperture, will always have some
rotation or “looseness” to it. The amount of looseness will vary from sight
to sight, but it will never rotate more than about 5 degrees. This amount is not
visible to the eye when using the peep, so is not a problem when shooting, and
does not affect accuracy.
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Installation
on New Winchesters with Thumb Safety |
The Winchester New Models of 1886,
1892 and 1895 all have a thumb safety on the upper tang. Columbia Precision
makes a sight base especially tailored to accommodate this safety. One is
slotted to allow access to the safety through the sight base (‘86). Another,
(for the 1892 and 1895) is shortened and does not interfere with the safety.
However, some care must be taken in drilling and tapping the front mounting
screw hole, as it is not cut at the factory like pre-war Winchesters.
The distance between screws is 2.180”,
center to center (O.C. or “on
center”) on the ‘86. The distance between the tang screw and mounting screw
on the 1892 and 1895 is .500” O.C. The
length of tang screw for the ‘86, and the thread size is the same as on the Browning
1886, no longer in production, even though the New Winchester 1886 has a
pistol grip stock. The ‘92 and
‘95 screws are slightly shorter. It is important to be
sure to have the correct mounting screws. When ordered for a particular make
and model, screws are shipped with each sight, and the sight package is labeled.
If no maker is indicated, old Winchester screws are packed with the sight.
The proper size for the front mounting screw hole tap is a 3/16 - 36 NS. (Brownells
does not usually stock this
tap. However, Field Tool Supply Company
in Chicago does. Their phone is 312-541-6500, and they will ship on a credit
card.) We encourage that this be
done by a competent gunsmith-machinist. If you are unable to find one in your
area, the gun may be shipped to Columbia, and we will mount the sight properly
for a charge of $25, plus return shipping and insurance. Please call before you
ship (970-686-2865).
For the Models 1886, a hole
should be drilled into the top of the upper tang using a 5/32” bit (.156”) or, preferably, the same size end mill. Then a
flat bottomed tap should be used for
cutting the threads. This hole should be a
maximum of only .125” deep. The thumb safety is attached to the bottom
of the upper tang with a screw which penetrates the tang .125” from the
bottom. Although this screw hole and the front mounting screw hole are not in
exactly the same place, the holes may overlap, and the screws interfere, if
either is drilled too deep. The thickness of the tang at this point is slightly more than .250”. The thumb safety
mechanism should be removed before drilling and tapping the front mounting hole
for the tang sight. For the Model 1892
and 1895 there is no interference
with the safety (it has a shorter base) and the mounting screw hole may be
drilled and tapped all the way through the upper tang. The mounting screw hole
is just .500” in front of the upper tang screw, and does not interfere with
the safety mechanism at all.
When mounting the sight in properly aligned holes, start both screws
without tightening either one down. When both are well started, tighten them
each down a little at a time until secure.
The Columbia Precision Tang Peep Sight has a windage element which allows
for adjustment side to side. However, some arms will not have a perfectly milled
or aligned upper tang . When the sight is mounted, it may not align with the barrel or barrel sights. If this occurs, and
the mounting is to be more or less permanent, shimming of the sight base may be necessary. Some old timers would
use anything from cigarette papers to matchbook covers to raise the sight base
on one side to straighten the post to the gun. Others might strike the sight with a mallet to “bend” it into
position. Although paper won’t hurt anything, we suggest the mallet not be used.
The best way to shim the sight base is to cut (ordinary scissors will
work) 1/8” wide and 2” long strips (shorter for the ‘95) of steel shim
stock (.005” thick) and lay them in position under one side of the base.
Generally, three such shims, one on top of another (held together with a drop of
rubber cement), will solve most problems. This can be done with mounting screws
loose enough to slide shims under
the side of the base, out of sight.
The elevation post, which holds the aperture, will always have some
rotation or “looseness” to it. The amount of looseness will vary from sight
to sight, but it will never rotate more than about 5 degrees. This amount is not
visible to the eye when using the peep, so is not a problem when shooting, and
does not affect accuracy.
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Installing Columbia Tang Peep Sights on Marlins |
There are no sights made by us which are specifically made for Marlins.
Our sights are manufactured mostly for Winchesters and their imitators, as well
as an occasional Sharps and some other single shots. Several years ago, when we
first made a small run of these sights, we tried to fit all the Marlins. The
variety in tang lengths, hole spacing, types and sizes of mounting screws
required, as well as the irksome placing of serial numbers on the top tang by
the Marlin Company, simply makes the effort uneconomical for us.
However,
since there are a lot of Marlin shooters out there, and I sympathize with their
need for a quality tang sight, I made a number of blank bases - no screw holes
at all. A competent gunsmith-machinist can mount one of our sights on a Marlin
by positioning the sight to suit, and drilling the sight base and tapping the
mounting screw holes in the upper tang, or by using existing mounting holes in
the older guns.
Please understand that there are problems with this procedure. I have no
mounting screws for Marlins, so the gunsmith will have to supply his own. I can
supply two small Winchester mounting screws if new holes are to be tapped
anyway, and you choose to use the Winchester tap size. Also, one needs to be
aware that the hammer on a Marlin, when cocked, does not allow for the tang
sight base to be under it. It must be mounted far enough back not to interfere,
or the base must be shortened to accomplish the same purpose.
Now, if all this doesn’t discourage you, I will ship either the short
or tall post sight you wish with a blank base, and Winchester screws, if
requested. The short post sight fits the short cartridge (.44-40, .32-20, .22LR,
etc.) and medium cartridge (.30-30, .25-35, etc.) guns, and mounts forward on
the tang near the hammer. The tall post sight fits the long cartridge (.45-70,
etc.) guns, and mounts toward the rear of the tang near the stock comb. If you
are in doubt, tell me the model and caliber and I’ll ship the appropriate
sight with blank base.
I will also mount the sight properly on Marlin rifles, if
you care to ship me the gun. I have mounted sights on Marlins of
every sort, so it is certainly not a problem if done right. The charge for this
service is $40, plus return shipping and insurance. It is not necessary to have
an FFL for this service, as the gun is essentially being shipped “for
repair” , and will be returned, usually within 10 days. By all means call, if
you have questions, or are planning on sending a gun.
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